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Preparing NewOrderOnline.com Version 3.0
Thread Starter: Spotnick
Started: 14/03/2003 11:50:27 PM - 11:50:27 PM
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Author Re: Preparing NewOrderOnline.com Version 3.0
Spotnick  
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14/03/2003 11:50:27 PM - 11:50:27 PM
Yes, you heard it first, I'm about to begin the skelton of NewOrderOnline v3.0 It will not be ready for a while for sure, but it is now the time to list all the annoying things and enhancements you can find for NewOrderOnline, and to debate about it. The new NewOrderOnline will more than surely be built on the Microsoft .NET platform, which is something I've learned since the beginning of the year and I'm quite pleased with. In the process, I will try to enhance the performance of the application and the forums in particular. What you don't see about NewOrderOnline is the massive administrative side of it, something I have done to ease Sebastien's job, this is something that took hours & hours to built, and it's not necessairly easy to find the best way to do it, for instance the discography administrative side is a nightmare. So basically, NewOrderOnline v3.0 will take shape, and it will be online for a testing purpose someday, if it works well, it will be the real version. I don't know yet if the design will change, probably a little so you can at least notice the changes, and we're still looking for people to help us finish the look & feel of NewOrderOnline. As you know, many people have now contributed to NewOrderOnline to pay for the hosting fees, my personal contribution is to enhance this site, which I think I managed to do over the 2 last years, and I hope this new version will be more robust and faster than the actual version. I have a hope to release v3.0 in the summer, but it will be difficult because of my wedding, but who knows, it's basically doing it when I feel like it. So go ahead, give your comments and suggestions, I have an open mind, it's better to know everything since I will be starting it from scratch (don't worry, I will import the data in the new system!!) :deal:


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Spotnick  
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15/03/2003 12:10:52 AM - 12:10:52 AM
Here's one for the road, since it's the point and to get you started. [b]- Split the tour & concerts section by DATE instead of "Tour"[/b] You can discuss it if you don't think it's a good idea, but it has been suggested by several users..

Edited by: Spotnick on 15/03/2003 12:11:11 AM - 12:11:11 AM


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15/03/2003 4:14:12 AM - 4:14:12 AM
[quote][i]Originally posted by Spotnick[/i]
[b]Yes, you heard it first, I'm about to begin the skelton of NewOrderOnline v3.0 It will not be ready for a while for sure, but it is now the time to list all the annoying things and enhancements you can find for NewOrderOnline, and to debate about it. The new NewOrderOnline will more than surely be built on the Microsoft .NET platform, which is something I've learned since the beginning of the year and I'm quite pleased with. In the process, I will try to enhance the performance of the application and the forums in particular. What you don't see about NewOrderOnline is the massive administrative side of it, something I have done to ease Sebastien's job, this is something that took hours & hours to built, and it's not necessairly easy to find the best way to do it, for instance the discography administrative side is a nightmare. So basically, NewOrderOnline v3.0 will take shape, and it will be online for a testing purpose someday, if it works well, it will be the real version. I don't know yet if the design will change, probably a little so you can at least notice the changes, and we're still looking for people to help us finish the look & feel of NewOrderOnline. As you know, many people have now contributed to NewOrderOnline to pay for the hosting fees, my personal contribution is to enhance this site, which I think I managed to do over the 2 last years, and I hope this new version will be more robust and faster than the actual version. I have a hope to release v3.0 in the summer, but it will be difficult because of my wedding, but who knows, it's basically doing it when I feel like it. So go ahead, give your comments and suggestions, I have an open mind, it's better to know everything since I will be starting it from scratch (don't worry, I will import the data in the new system!!) :deal:[/b][/quote] :jawdrop: Yer getting married?:lol: Only kidding Nicos, sounds good, but to avoid problems it would definitely be better to give a test run to it first, there's nothing more annoying than when you cannae get on the site. I have decided I am going to do some more reviews of concerts I've been at, and put them in the tours section, I also have loads more photies to add as well......if I ever get round to scanning them:thumb:


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Amory Blaine  
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15/03/2003 6:51:58 AM - 6:51:58 AM
Great..the change can be very useful for consulting.

Edited by: Amory Blaine on 15/03/2003 6:52:47 AM - 6:52:47 AM


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Jim R  
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15/03/2003 10:03:41 AM - 10:03:41 AM
Ban Rocket. Thats all


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15/03/2003 10:11:25 AM - 10:11:25 AM
[quote][i]Originally posted by Spotnick[/i]
[b]Here's one for the road, since it's the point and to get you started. [b]- Split the tour & concerts section by DATE instead of "Tour"[/b] You can discuss it if you don't think it's a good idea, but it has been suggested by several users..[/b][/quote] Yeah, I was one of them. :nod: Dividing the gigs by "tour" doesn't make sense for New Order, that's not the way they operate.


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Jeffari-al-Texani  
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15/03/2003 12:35:57 PM - 12:35:57 PM
[quote][i]Originally posted by Jim Reilly[/i]
[b]Ban Rocket. Thats all[/b][/quote] that's what I was going to suggest!!! :lol:


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15/03/2003 5:38:54 PM - 5:38:54 PM
[quote][i]Originally posted by Jim Reilly[/i]
[b]Ban Rocket. Thats all[/b][/quote]


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15/03/2003 8:57:05 PM - 8:57:05 PM
You hope that the new version will be more robust & faster? Not to discourage it but this is definitley THE fastest forum website I'm registered with, bar none. And this is not arse kissing, just the facts. Keep it up.


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404 error  
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15/03/2003 9:24:21 PM - 9:24:21 PM
[quote][i]Originally posted by Jim Reilly[/i]
[b]Ban Rocket. Thats all[/b][/quote] No, though perhaps give him his own forum?


ra tee ta tee ta tee ta ta hey!


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16/03/2003 7:20:44 AM - 7:20:44 AM
[quote][i]Originally posted by 404 error[/i]
[b][quote][i]Originally posted by Jim Reilly[/i]
[b]Ban Rocket. Thats all[/b][/quote] No, though perhaps give him his own forum? [/b][/quote] Now lets not turn this into a witchhunt.Serious suggestions only.This site is getting very interesting again!:nod:


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16/03/2003 8:32:24 AM - 8:32:24 AM
I'm sure we can live with this site as is, until after you've tied the knot. All the best to you and your future mrs.


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16/03/2003 3:17:13 PM - 3:17:13 PM
OK banning Rocket would be much. How about a small wound, preferably on the chest or somewhere like that? EDIT: Ok, this may be beyond your control Nic, but is there a chance more audio samples of different mixes will be going up anytime soon?

Edited by: Bizarre Keyboard Player on 16/03/2003 3:18:20 PM - 3:18:20 PM


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404 error  
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17/03/2003 7:30:54 AM - 7:30:54 AM
[quote][i]Originally posted by [RED]Rocket Mick[/RED][/i]
[b][quote][i]Originally posted by 404 error[/i]
[b][quote][i]Originally posted by Jim Reilly[/i]
[b]Ban Rocket. Thats all[/b][/quote] No, though perhaps give him his own forum? [/b][/quote] Now lets not turn this into a witchhunt.Serious suggestions only.This site is getting very interesting again!:nod:[/b][/quote] I'm sure you know I don't mean it. The others might mean it, but that's probably only because they are you posting under another nick and the knowledge of that fact is unbearable to them.


ra tee ta tee ta tee ta ta hey!


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17/03/2003 8:29:19 AM - 8:29:19 AM
Firstly congratulations Nic on your forthcoming marriage! Ok heres a few suggestions. 1. Have the 'who's online' list at the top of the forum (ie where the retro rhino banner was) rather than on a seperate page 2. Have post preview facility so you can check your post has come out the way you want it before it goes 'live' this would be useful when your not sure if links or pics you have attached have come out. 3. Enable PM (private messaging) this would save on many of the FAO: threads, you can then have a 'buddy list' 4. Bring back the chatroom :D 5. Increase the capability of the stats to include how many threads each member has posted and on what forum 6. Have a 'post of the month' competition 7. The ability to attach a small .wav to your post - for example if you want to point out a part of a song or have a question on it. Make it a small size limit or space will be a major obstacle for this 8. Have different style settings so the user can customize the board according to preference (if there at work etc) 9. Facility to order posts by name/threadstarter/replies etc.. 10. Ability to expand and collapse threads. :p


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17/03/2003 8:57:49 AM - 8:57:49 AM
Oh yea, can I repeat my lazy-poster-of-the-year request for the top menu to be repeated at the bottom of long threads. So that after you make a post, like this one, you can then go straight back to the main forum page without first having to scroll all the way back up again to the menu! Or just put the menu stuff in a seperate frame so it stays visible at the top whichever bit of the thread page you are looking at.

Edited by: 404 error on 17/03/2003 8:59:08 AM - 8:59:08 AM


ra tee ta tee ta tee ta ta hey!


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17/03/2003 9:03:38 AM - 9:03:38 AM
The top menu use to follow you down the page if you remember but it always seemed a bit dodgy and well now it doesnt do it anyway!! But a simple html link to the top would be nice for the lazy bastards i agree :D


"Down a semi-tone"


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17/03/2003 9:10:41 AM - 9:10:41 AM
Whatever the new version is like, keep it simple and fast for netting at work.


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DoN  
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17/03/2003 9:29:08 AM - 9:29:08 AM
Oh the option to turn off smilees would be handy for some as well - another work request!


"Down a semi-tone"


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Spotnick  
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17/03/2003 12:40:26 PM - 12:40:26 PM
The new version WILL have facilities to sort the thread any way you want it. That's one good site of the .NET FrameWork, it's the DataGrid included with it! I just don't know how fast it will be for an active site, this will need some testing. As for the chat room, this will always be a tough thing to do via a web page.. but i'll give it a shot some day (it's still there btw.. just not working much, as usual) Keep going, I'm taking notes.


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[quote][i]Originally posted by [RED]Rocket Mick[/RED][/i]
[b][quote][i]Originally posted by 404 error[/i]
[b][quote][i]Originally posted by Jim Reilly[/i]
[b]Ban Rocket. Thats all[/b][/quote] No, though perhaps give him his own forum? [/b][/quote] Now lets not turn this into a witchhunt.Serious suggestions only.This site is getting very interesting again!:nod:[/b][/quote] come on baldy...you know we really do all love you!! like our long lost Uncle Fester!!! :lol:


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19/03/2003 2:23:58 AM - 2:23:58 AM
All I can suggest is, since you mentioned getting more space, redo the Covers archives, with many downloadable mp3s!! Please?


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19/03/2003 5:31:24 PM - 5:31:24 PM
I was never really fond of the naviagation... that menu at the top. Also... some screens, such as the one where you enter your password and email, have no margrins, so the text is [i]right up[/i] against the left side of the browser... not a major issue but cosmetically it annoys me. Also... what was the deal with the Everything Gone Green flash video that used to be here? It had the dave clarke remix playing, and at the end it flashed some seemingly random letters and numbers... what do those numbers mean?


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20/03/2003 8:55:31 AM - 8:55:31 AM
I'll check it for bugs and things when you're done Nic-Nack! ;) Can you reduce my avatar to a more reasonable size please when you've got a minute. Make sure it's big enough for the ladies to see! :smoking:

Edited by: Bad Dog on 20/03/2003 8:57:08 AM - 8:57:08 AM


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Spotnick  
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21/03/2003 1:18:21 PM - 1:18:21 PM
[quote][i]Originally posted by Muffy[/i]
[b]I'll check it for bugs and things when you're done Nic-Nack! ;) Can you reduce my avatar to a more reasonable size please when you've got a minute. Make sure it's big enough for the ladies to see! :smoking:[/b][/quote] Might take a while though, problem is, can't really have both versions working together... But I'm doing my best so it will work better than this version.. which works, but I'm never statisfied with the result..


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