Only interested in the Super Highways CD, but the bonus tracks on that one I already have on the Super Highways CD single.

Can't help but feeling slightly disappointed on that one.

We should remember that besides the main albums TOT didn't really release a whole lot of other tracks. A few remixes on the singles, most of which are still available on Ebay for pennies and as for the TV soundtrack work, Nick's got a point maybe the copyrights involved were restrictive to what LTM could reasonably put out. The main album track listings as they stand look great and contain the respective best remixes of each era. Not sure what more they were meant to include?

If we're gonna be ultra picky maybe the Quake Vocal Mix of You Can Fly should have been on the Super Highways CD in place of Tasty Fish K-Klass but that's not such a big deal.

I'm also a bit disappointed that Satisfied didn't make the final cut, again licensing issues perhaps? Who knows... guess our crackly vinyl transfers are all we're gonna get there.

I am glad to see the Love To Infinity mix of Innocence made the bonus disc though; it's a cracking mix and of course it'll be interesting to hear Autosound & Sawdust.

Haven't received my copies yet but hopefully this week.

Bonus disc looks a bit disappointing.

Was going to buy both discs to get the Bonus. However, now I think I'll get only "Superhighways" (only ever had that on mp3). I have an original London CD of the debut anyway.

As I'm a tight arse I'll probably get "Superhighways" off Amazon (only £7.98 with free delivery).

Well...I'm SATISFIED

I emailed James Nice the other day just to say that I'd received the CD's safely and also took the opportunity to cheekily ask if there were any more plans in the pipeline for OT CD's and why 'Satisfied' wasn't included...

He replied that he would like to do a CD of their soundtrack work. But no mention of possible release date. It was Steve & Gillian that personally chose the tracks for the re-issues and and so it was their decision that they didn't want to include 'Satisfied'. He doesn't have a clue why they didn't want it on there, but it's not LTM's fault!

Oh, and the K-Klass mix of 'Tasty Fish' is from around the Super Highways period of 98-99 so it fits more on there than it would on the debut. It was, I imagine, meant to be a bonus track on the CD single of You Can Fly or Super Highways?

The 'You Can Fly'-CD singles look pretty limited to me. Anyone got mp3's of these?! Looks like there was a single version, an album version and a special edit of the album version which is quite different also. Only the album version is on the newly remastered Super Highways CD.

Luke wrote:

The 'You Can Fly'-CD singles look pretty limited to me.

They were withdrawn at the last minute - some made it out to shops, but not that many...

AFAIK, Super Highways (the single), was chosen instead - don't know why?

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The versions of You Can Fly on the withdrawn CD singles are not hugely different to the album version; just straight up edits. Imagine a bit of the intro chopped off, earlier fade etc and there you have it.

Who knows why they swapped in Super Highways at the last minute especially as the CD Singles for You Can Fly were clearly already manufactured. Seemed a pointless waste and the same thing happened to Electronic's Late At Night the same year. You'll be lucky to find 'em these days; they've become rarities in the same league as Until The End Of Time.

Warners/London really did such a botched job on the whole SH album though; really screwed up any potential at the time.

adchelle wrote:

Oh, and the K-Klass mix of 'Tasty Fish' is from around the Super Highways period of 98-99 so it fits more on there than it would on the debut. It was, I imagine, meant to be a bonus track on the CD single of You Can Fly or Super Highways?

The Tasty Fish K-Klass mix originally appeared on the Innocence 12" (USA only) in very early '95. This is the same release that contains Satisfied so unless this is a brand new K-Klass effort it doesn't really belong in the 98-99 period at all.

Selfish had been released just two years previous in '93 and it was another four full years until anything regarding Super Highways would be released.

That mix really should have gone on the "TOT & You" remaster in my mind.
(If it's the K-Klass Mix I think it is)

No big deal mind... just glad to have it on CD.

What's the story with 'Satisfied'? Is it because Steven & Gillian didn't want it on the rerelease or because they couldn't include it??

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twp wrote:

What's the story with 'Satisfied'? Is it because Steven & Gillian didn't want it on the rerelease or because they couldn't include it??

I guess only Steve and Gillian will know the answer?

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Exeter wrote:

I got the O2 CDs today, but I noticed that there is a mastering a problem on The Other Two & You, the highs are too high & the low ends are muffled. Anyone else have this problem?

Yes, once again it's too compressed!

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I shot an e-mail to LTM asking them for a replacement, as I thought it may have been a defect, I got a reply stating that is the way the album is supposed to sound, as it was an official & authorized remaster.

...I only sprang for "Super Highways" in the end as I already have the debut on the London original. I am still waiting for the disc at the mo - is "Super Highways" blighted by a compressed sound as well?

Adam Tate wrote:

...I only sprang for "Super Highways" in the end as I already have the debut on the London original. I am still waiting for the disc at the mo - is "Super Highways" blighted by a compressed sound as well?

I second that.

Definitely want to know if Super Highways has the same problems. I can order tomorrow in our country, which is Holland by the way.

Well, they sound fine to me..

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I hope "Super Highways" is not compressed - the reason I am buying it is to upgrade on the ITunes mp3 files I bought ages ago.

I wouldn't be totally surprised though. I was listening today to Section 25's new CD "Nature & Degree". Some great tunes - much better than the last two New Order albums. The tracks with the female vocals actually remind me of classic Other Two tracks. However, the sound on this LTM CD really puts me off - there is virtually no dynamic range.

I was waiting to buy LTM's reissue of Certain Ratio's "Force" album (due for release in February). However, after recent loud CDs I spotted a Factory original on eBay and bought that instead.

LTM's CD version of Quando Quango's Pigs + Battleships is quite good though. It's from 2003 if I'm correct. The same year the Revenge CD's were done.

Nick King wrote:

twp wrote: What's the story with 'Satisfied'? Is it because Steven & Gillian didn't want it on the rerelease or because they couldn't include it?? I guess only Steve and Gillian will know the answer?

I'm kind of glad that satisfied isn't on there since i'd only recently purchased the qwest innocence 12". it cost a bit too much really as I don't think the k-klass mixes are much good. The love to infinity mix is brilliant though.

Can someone talk about what the bonus tracks are like? I'm most interested in knowing what the pascal mixes are like.

Last friday I heard that both CD's are delayed in my country.

Nick King wrote:

Well, they sound fine to me..

Same here

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Finally, they arrived yesterday! However, The Other Two And You has no transparent jewel/inlay case like Super Highways does. Looks a bit/slighty different in layout also, but that's a minor issue, I will give away the 1st album because I already have all the tracks on it

Finally got round to listening to my new LTM copy of "Superhighways" this afternoon and .....oh dear !

Warning : This CD is loud ....stupidly loud.

On my amp I can only get to about the first 10% of my volume control before the music is too loud. This is ridiculous - as you can see from the graphic analysis of the first track "You can fly" the CD is completely brickwalled :-



...I thought LTM was above this sort of malarkey. I thought record companies had realized by now that this is not what we want. The CD is completely relentless in it's sound quality - it just batters you into submission. This is so disappointing - the original London was so rare that I only had mp3 files from iTunes. I was therefore looking to this CD for a sonic upgrade but this new CD has no dynamic range.

...I am going to have to go for lie down now the CD has given me a headache.

P.S If James Nice is reading this - you need to be careful about this mate. Previous CDs on LTM have mostly been OK - this is the loudest one I've heard yet. I for one will be very careful before buying any more LTM discs.

Adam Tate wrote:

Finally got round to listening to my new LTM copy of "Superhighways" this afternoon and .....oh dear ! Warning : This CD is loud ....stupidly loud. On my amp I can only get to about the first 10% of my volume control before the music is too loud. This is ridiculous - as you can see from the graphic analysis of the first track "You can fly" the CD is completely brickwalled :- ...I thought LTM was above this sort of malarkey. I thought record companies had realized by now that this is not what we want. The CD is completely relentless in it's sound quality - it just batters you into submission. This is so disappointing - the original London was so rare that I only had mp3 files from iTunes. I was therefore looking to this CD for a sonic upgrade but this new CD has no dynamic range. ...I am going to have to go for lie down now the CD has given me a headache. P.S If James Nice is reading this - you need to be careful about this mate. Previous CDs on LTM have mostly been OK - this is the loudest one I've heard yet. I for one will be very careful before buying any more LTM discs.

I totally agree.

I was so excited to hear about LTM's remaster project of this one because, also, I never got a London copy back in 1999. Searched for it on fairs and music stores but never succeed. Finally 10-and-a-half years later I got a copy, only to experience this farce. It reminded me of the New Order disaster in late 2008, except for the fact that this one is not from vynil and doesn't have the clicks and pops and/or volume drop-outs.

Just listened to this CD in my hi-fi stereo set (a JVC from 1996) and normally I listen to my music at about 30% of the volume ... with Super Highways I got a ''BANG!''-erlebnis with the opening track and the rest ... had to turn down the volume immediately because of my ears and the neighbours ... this is now on 7% of the volume AND STILL LOUD !!!

R.I.D.I.C.U.L.O.U.S.

Another issue I found out: The 2nd track (Super Highways) is different than on the CD-single (London, twocd3) . I thought they were identical. The intro is weird and the track is faded out instead of the abrupt ending as I know. I was wondering if this is the same case on the original London album CD.

From LTM I bought the two Revenge CD's, the Cool As Ice/Twice As Nice CD's and a Quando Quango CD. They all were good.

I will not buy any more CD's from LTM. Period.

Yes they clearly had the master tapes for this release.

There is no excuse - the person who did the mastering for LTM is a cretin.