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Gazman

Low-Life
..died of AIDS in '85
Posts: 6,324
Member Since: 01/03/2005 5:22:27 AM
Location: Bitch View Too, United Kingdom (Scotland)
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19/11/2007 9:36:35 PM - 9:36:35 PM |
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Snorrimon

Low-Life
I want to see my garden gnome, My wife and child waiting at home...
Posts: 8,279
Member Since: 22/02/2004 6:14:31 AM
Location: The Wild Fens, United Kingdom (England)
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20/11/2007 1:38:59 AM - 1:38:59 AM |
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The friends option is very gay, but PMs are useful for contacting folks without clogging up the forums with posts which have are completely irrelevant to most... Although by that logic you'd have to get rid of the whole of BCD...  Snorri xxx
More Reggae...
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Boatraceface

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Posts: 7,657
Member Since: 25/02/2004 1:01:20 AM
Location: , United Kingdom (England)
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20/11/2007 1:45:50 AM - 1:45:50 AM |
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Snorrimon wrote: | The friends option is very gay, but PMs are useful for contacting folks without clogging up the forums with posts which have are completely irrelevant to most... Although by that logic you'd have to get rid of the whole of BCD... 
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I'd agree with that.The Friends option in particular,is gay as,but not as gay as Snorri's trademark xxx. There fore for the purposes of NOOL I'd disable x from the alphabet. Boaty xxx
"Its like playing at the British Legion in Salford this"
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Snorrimon

Low-Life
I want to see my garden gnome, My wife and child waiting at home...
Posts: 8,279
Member Since: 22/02/2004 6:14:31 AM
Location: The Wild Fens, United Kingdom (England)
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20/11/2007 1:50:56 AM - 1:50:56 AM |
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Go on then...  Snorri kiss-kiss-kiss
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Snorrimon

Low-Life
I want to see my garden gnome, My wife and child waiting at home...
Posts: 8,279
Member Since: 22/02/2004 6:14:31 AM
Location: The Wild Fens, United Kingdom (England)
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20/11/2007 2:03:39 AM - 2:03:39 AM |
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Never one to mince your words...  I actually find that I've typed 'Snorri xxx' so many times that I often start doing it automatically at the end of e-mails, which is espcially worrying if they're work ones... Some sort of parental control feature might work - limit the amount of time some of us wasters spend on here...  Snorri xxx
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Tim
Salvation Member
feck
Posts: 18,021
Member Since: 16/07/2002 6:55:06 AM
Location: wherever I lay my hat,
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20/11/2007 7:35:28 AM - 7:35:28 AM |
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Fookin' close it down, get rid of all the shite and start a smaller version that has accurate things on it Seriously, * Massively trim the forums, completely re-engineer the forums so that all posts after a month or something are archived or removed. * Get rid of the visibility of the post counts, or atl east make their visibility an option controlled by the user. * Either get the live pages and gig database correct or delete them and link to Sam's pages, as they are not only a load of shite but also perpetuate incorrect info. That database is still fucking up on Procession, has done since Day 1 and has been reported more times than the band have done encores. * Get rid of that totally pointless "friends" thing. * Delete all the dormant members after giving them a chance to post by sending them a link warning of deactivation unless they reply within 7 days. * Remove all the extraneous content, like things that started as a good idea and ended up not getting past first base. You all know what I mean. * Get them shite blogs off the site, mine included. * Make it 100% certain that nothing posted on this site by any member can be picked up by Google or other search engines. You don't need to be demonstrating metadata capabilities for CV purposes now..... * Give the mods a few tools for improving the site's content, like the capacity to delete the spammer (obviously such action would need regulation, easily done) and the ability to put the inflammatory poster on a yellow. * Actually, just knock it on the head, they ain't coming back, those who want to socialise together know how to, and those who want to talk shite will always be able to find a way.
A big lad with a piece of paper
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Chris Nash

Weirdo
Posts: 4,720
Member Since: 01/01/2001 12:00:00 AM
Location: , United Kingdom (England)
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20/11/2007 10:54:42 AM - 10:54:42 AM |
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Tim
Salvation Member
feck
Posts: 18,021
Member Since: 16/07/2002 6:55:06 AM
Location: wherever I lay my hat,
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20/11/2007 11:16:14 AM - 11:16:14 AM |
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Chris Nash wrote: | cozmonite61 wrote: | | delete threads that are over two years old, |
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NO! They can be very useful indeed - for research, pictures, etc. As long as there's enough server space, they should definitely stay.  |
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Totally disagree. What should happen instead, if Nic really has the two weeks to turn it round and make it something that retains the interest of the people, then some of the most commonly used topics should be distilled and turned into an embellished FAQ that is both accurate and reflects the populice. The wealth of photos could be added to an enhanced photo gallery that becomes a useful resource. Old posts need to be deleted. The post counts can stay for those that are obsessed by them, at least the option to display your credentials as a mega poster, if that is what floats your boat, they needn't go down when posts are removed - set the current count as being the base level, and all new posts go up from there. Server space will be enormusly helped by getting rid of the thousands of dormant accounts. I just had an email from the Bob Mould site asking me to log in again or face deletion, it's dead easy to do and will sort the wheat from the chaff. It's no kudos measure having thousands of people who are registered but never ever log in!
A big lad with a piece of paper
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El Jarvo

Viking
Phat Boys
Posts: 14,874
Member Since: 01/09/2001 7:53:03 AM
Location: Snorebans, United Kingdom (England)
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21/11/2007 2:14:47 AM - 2:14:47 AM |
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oldmonkey wrote: | Totally disagree. What should happen instead, if Nic really has the two weeks to turn it round and make it something that retains the interest of the people, then some of the most commonly used topics should be distilled and turned into an embellished FAQ that is both accurate and reflects the populice. The wealth of photos could be added to an enhanced photo gallery that becomes a useful resource. Old posts need to be deleted. The post counts can stay for those that are obsessed by them, at least the option to display your credentials as a mega poster, if that is what floats your boat, they needn't go down when posts are removed - set the current count as being the base level, and all new posts go up from there.
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In total agreement with Timbo here. I really do not like the wealth of personal history which is retained here. It's a bit unnerving. I cannot see why anyone would want to go back through posts from more than one month ago, let alone from years. I wouldn't want to. Yes, there is the odd fact or interesting comment on New Order thrown up amongst the white noise but - let's face facts - considering the band are, basically, no more, the forums do illicit a lot more random chat these days, and I don't see why that needs retaining. I post heavily on another forum, one which I've belonged to before this one was in existence and it has a lot heavier throughput. They retain maybe 100 threads at any one time there, and then they're lost to the ether. I'm far more comfortable with that.
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Tim
Salvation Member
feck
Posts: 18,021
Member Since: 16/07/2002 6:55:06 AM
Location: wherever I lay my hat,
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21/11/2007 3:18:36 AM - 3:18:36 AM |
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The Perfect Kisser! (Sub-Cultured!) wrote: | For those who don't want old threads - simply don't open / read them. It is as simple as that.
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But is it? You are rather missing the point. First of all, they take up masses of bandwidth, slowing the site down and costing those who contribute financially to the site more money (historically, before the site became infested with fookin' adverts). Secondly, the info contained within is available to the whole world with a simple google search - I have no wish for anyone at all, be they fellow NO fans, internet stalkers or prospective employers to put my name into google and come up with a load of pissed shit I wrote 5 years ago, for example! There is simply no need to keep all the forum threads that have been here for several years.
A big lad with a piece of paper
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depthcharge

Salvation Member
Posts: 3,475
Member Since: 05/09/2001 12:00:00 AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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21/11/2007 8:25:33 AM - 8:25:33 AM |
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Can't agree that there's "simply no need" to keep the older threads, especially those in Digital Republic and Ceremony. If they're significantly slowing down the site then that's one issue. But some of us do find them useful from an archival perspective. Reflecting on how posters perceived new releases or reacted to news as it happened. Having the facility to review previous posts during a dispute. Or simply mulling over people's ruminations and experiences of New Order. May not be something everyone does, but some will and do find it of use.
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In A Noisy Place

Skullcrusher
Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies
Posts: 2,754
Member Since: 25/09/2002 6:08:07 AM
Location: Paris, France
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21/11/2007 9:24:49 AM - 9:24:49 AM |
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The Perfect Kisser! (Sub-Cultured!) wrote: | | 3. For inactive members, I disagree with Edel to delete inactive members. What I can suggest is that you can greet them on their e-mail during their birthdays, just like one forum-site I've joined since 2001. As least, they will be reminded that they are a member/registered here. |
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 excellent idea  I'd like to see the TV shows with the setlists included in the live section 
EUPHORIC RECALL - See you tomorrow, See you next week, See you next year... LOVE TO LONDON - Au revoir Monsieur, au revoir Madame, je m'appelle...New Order
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In A Noisy Place

Skullcrusher
Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies
Posts: 2,754
Member Since: 25/09/2002 6:08:07 AM
Location: Paris, France
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21/11/2007 9:39:45 AM - 9:39:45 AM |
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Hélène's friend wrote: | oldmonkey wrote: |
* Massively trim the forums, completely re-engineer the forums so that all posts after a month or something are archived or removed.
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I disagree!
cozmonite61 wrote: | | function, delete threads that are over two years old, |
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I disagree once again! |
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I'm with you JC on this point.  In the Village, we like old theads.
EUPHORIC RECALL - See you tomorrow, See you next week, See you next year... LOVE TO LONDON - Au revoir Monsieur, au revoir Madame, je m'appelle...New Order
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