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Home » Forums » State of the Nation » Confusion '83 x Confusion '87
Confusion '83 x Confusion '87
Thread Starter: The User Formerly Known As Fac443
Started: 19/03/2004 1:27:09 PM - 1:27:09 PM
Replies: 51
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What's yer pick?


Arthur Baker's produced original 1983 version [44]
    [74.58%]
1987 version included on 'Substance' [15]
    [25.42%]
59 vote(s) so far.
Author Re: Confusion '83 x Confusion '87
The User Formerly Known As Fac443  
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19/03/2004 1:27:09 PM - 1:27:09 PM
Tony Wilson was right: the original version is far superior, even if Barney had the flu the day he sang it.


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Author Re: Confusion '83 x Confusion '87
Major T  
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Here we go again


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19/03/2004 3:15:00 PM - 3:15:00 PM
I kinda like them both.


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facseven  
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19/03/2004 3:43:12 PM - 3:43:12 PM
The 1983 version!


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Author Re: Confusion '83 x Confusion '87
2005 > 2010  
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19/03/2004 4:39:39 PM - 4:39:39 PM
The 87 version is closer to the live version, so I have to go with that. :bass: Barney vs. Hooky on bass :bass:


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Sir: :CHUNKS  
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Nothing important to say...


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19/03/2004 5:35:50 PM - 5:35:50 PM
Can't pick right now. Too sober at the moment (See thread on Alcoholism FMI) to make a good choice. Must....drink....more. But I [i]am[/i] kinda-almost-psuedo-maybe-possibly leaning towards the 87 version. :shrug:


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Author Re: Confusion '83 x Confusion '87
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be  
Weirdo

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19/03/2004 6:33:34 PM - 6:33:34 PM
The '87 version. The original isn't bad, but it's too muddy and Barney's vocals are kind of whacked. But, the video isn't bad.


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ShugZV  
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20/03/2004 12:07:23 AM - 12:07:23 AM
Confusion 83 Too drunk to remember why it wasn't included on Substance.....but easily the best!


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Slippy  
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20/03/2004 1:56:25 AM - 1:56:25 AM
Original!!


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Author Re: Confusion '83 x Confusion '87
Steve #1  
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20/03/2004 2:37:34 AM - 2:37:34 AM
The original every time.:thumb:


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Mick Aneworderfan  
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20/03/2004 11:54:29 AM - 11:54:29 AM
fookin obvious! Baker's production is top! :thumb:


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SHED  
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21/03/2004 9:15:32 AM - 9:15:32 AM
[b]BAKERMAN [/b] for me............:wink:


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Green  
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..........or maybe not.


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21/03/2004 9:37:10 PM - 9:37:10 PM
Played the 83 version to death, so that's the one I prefer.


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embraced him and thought his foul breath was fine perfume.....just like rock n' roll
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PHD  
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22/03/2004 3:36:17 AM - 3:36:17 AM
83 version for me but the video edit. Quite liked the 92 version though. Hated the 87 version. It didn't work IMO.


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PAUL TROWELL  
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22/03/2004 11:49:47 AM - 11:49:47 AM
83 version..raw,hard and brutal. however imo horrible live :nonono:


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Digital Mike Binoche  
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Ooh la La


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22/03/2004 4:06:38 PM - 4:06:38 PM
B'ham Powerhouse 83 live for me


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Twist, singer of the Blessing Way  
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turn the heater on


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22/03/2004 9:51:38 PM - 9:51:38 PM
Original version. I especially enjoy the Sting impression Bernard did when he belts out "you caused me some problems, you've taken my place." How many other bands would say "fook it, let's do it, damn the singer's cold." I cannot think of any other song in which the singer is so ill it effects the recording.


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Dee  
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24/03/2004 3:53:41 PM - 3:53:41 PM
'83 for me-- how it was imagined when it was written :thumb:


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Steve #1  
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26/03/2004 9:47:40 AM - 9:47:40 AM
The 1983 version is far superior to the 1987 mix. the remix/re-recorded version is good,but FAC 93 beats it hands down.


Im not a mod or a rocker,im a mocker.


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This blue-eyed boy that wants to be  
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26/03/2004 11:46:35 PM - 11:46:35 PM
Does anyone take Tony Wilson seriously? The man thought Shaun Ryder was the next Yeats :nuts::nuts::nuts:


What is it you need that makes your heart bleed?


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GaryMac  
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29/03/2004 2:13:05 AM - 2:13:05 AM
83 version Ryder was the next eddie yates


And reach a place where nothing shines at all


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Steve #1  
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05/04/2004 11:55:02 AM - 11:55:02 AM
Never been a big fan of the 87 version,but did like the WWRL sample at the start.


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Tristan Jayol  
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06/04/2004 1:33:46 AM - 1:33:46 AM
The original version stands the test of time IMO


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Pinhead: Such a limited imagination!


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tom walsh  
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17/05/2004 7:56:07 AM - 7:56:07 AM
The original pisses on the version on substance. It was a classic electro track which summed up the period. I was very disapointed with the version on substance. And dont get me started on the version of temptation on it.:cry:


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17/05/2004 9:43:20 PM - 9:43:20 PM
[quote][i]Originally posted by This blue-eyed boy that wants to be[/i]
[b]Does anyone take Tony Wilson seriously? The man thought Shaun Ryder was the next Yeats :nuts::nuts::nuts:[/b][/quote] Don't be silly! Bono is the next Yeats! :ignore: :p


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This blue-eyed boy that wants to be  
Weirdo

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Location: Hartford, United States of America
17/05/2004 10:23:23 PM - 10:23:23 PM
What is the big deal about the '83 version? I know that people are entitled to their own opinions, but the original version sounds so muddled. Then again, I might be biased, since I heard an "acapella" version of Confusion '83, and the vocals were horrid.


What is it you need that makes your heart bleed?


 
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