a bit of both , or should that be a lot of both.

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What's the use in complaining, when you've got what you don't need.

GENIUS definitely !!!
That goes without saying.
And yes, he was a normal bloke (thank Heavens)like all of us... But inni't one of the aspect we love so much about NEWorder/Joy Division : their Human side 1st of all...
That always kept me closer to their Music than anyone else.
That's 1 of the many points that make them TRULY UNIQUE.

GENIUS definitely !!!
That goes without saying.
And yes, he was a normal bloke (thank Heavens)like all of us... But inni't one of the aspect we love so much about NEWorder/Joy Division : their Human side 1st of all...
That always kept me closer to their Music than anyone else.
That's 1 of the many points that make them TRULY UNIQUE.

Geniarse.

A normal man who wrote extrodinary lyrics to extrodinary songs.

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Von's First Law Of The Internet: "The Net is allergic to truth, reason and humour."

Andrew Eldritch

Geniarse.

A normal man who wrote extrodinary lyrics to extrodinary songs.

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"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think."

Von's First Law Of The Internet: "The Net is allergic to truth, reason and humour."

Andrew Eldritch

A tragic, troubled genius whose legacy will never be forgotten as long as music lives on. I can think of no other lyricist brave enough to take a scalpel to their soul and display the wounds for all to see. His lyrics are deep, dark, poetry.

A tragic, troubled genius whose legacy will never be forgotten as long as music lives on. I can think of no other lyricist brave enough to take a scalpel to their soul and display the wounds for all to see. His lyrics are deep, dark, poetry.

Reading 'touching from a distance' one leans towards twat. But then you listen to the music... the lyrics...

I think he was a man with a lost of problems... who made great lyrics and music. When you match the lyrics with his experiences - its brilliant poetry. Those lyrics were really expressing real, deep hurt.

Hard question for a definite answer I suppose.

Reading 'touching from a distance' one leans towards twat. But then you listen to the music... the lyrics...

I think he was a man with a lost of problems... who made great lyrics and music. When you match the lyrics with his experiences - its brilliant poetry. Those lyrics were really expressing real, deep hurt.

Hard question for a definite answer I suppose.

80 % Genius...20% twat (he read the daily mail, voted conservative and abit of a shit towards his wife)

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http://www.last.fm/user/johnboy586

80 % Genius...20% twat (he read the daily mail, voted conservative and abit of a shit towards his wife)

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http://www.last.fm/user/johnboy586

A genius or an outstanding poet.

A genius or an outstanding poet.

Just find it incredible sometimes to think he wrote those lyrics at such a young age.late teens and early twenties.You`d think the lyrics were written by someone ancient.


Bloody wife hater.

Edited by: johnny on 04/09/2005 3:00:02 PM - 3:00:02 PM

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"I`ve always wanted to be American.You get so excited.It`s wonderful!"

Just find it incredible sometimes to think he wrote those lyrics at such a young age.late teens and early twenties.You`d think the lyrics were written by someone ancient.


Bloody wife hater.

Edited by: johnny on 04/09/2005 3:00:02 PM - 3:00:02 PM

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"I`ve always wanted to be American.You get so excited.It`s wonderful!"

I think it was Thackeray (hope I've spelt his name right) who said that comparing the mind of Shakespeare with that of an ordinary man was like comparing the length of two maggots. An enigmatic statement I suppose, but I think he was saying that he did not believe in the concept of genius. Curtis was a twat for killing himself perhaps. I heard Tony Wilson say on Australian radio that Curtis should have hung around (no pun intended) until JD got to America then he could have shagged his way across the States and become a relatively happy man again. His death was probably the most unromantic in the history of rock. To hang oneself above a washer/dryer...

I think it was Thackeray (hope I've spelt his name right) who said that comparing the mind of Shakespeare with that of an ordinary man was like comparing the length of two maggots. An enigmatic statement I suppose, but I think he was saying that he did not believe in the concept of genius. Curtis was a twat for killing himself perhaps. I heard Tony Wilson say on Australian radio that Curtis should have hung around (no pun intended) until JD got to America then he could have shagged his way across the States and become a relatively happy man again. His death was probably the most unromantic in the history of rock. To hang oneself above a washer/dryer...

Musically - 100% Genius.

As a human / socially - 50% twat (but aren't we all as we grow).

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http://www.20six.co.uk/tryharder

Musically - 100% Genius.

As a human / socially - 50% twat (but aren't we all as we grow).

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http://www.20six.co.uk/tryharder

An absolute genius and a complete and utter twat. His presence in the history of pop music is unsurpassable and possesses a completely unique brilliance, but he was a selfish bastard in his personal life.

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Doctorin' the Tardis.

An absolute genius and a complete and utter twat. His presence in the history of pop music is unsurpassable and possesses a completely unique brilliance, but he was a selfish bastard in his personal life.

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Doctorin' the Tardis.

Ian is very Genius.
but sometimes twat.'S blood!!!!!

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I am human and I need to be love...
In a room with a window in the corner,I found truth

Ian is very Genius.
but sometimes twat.'S blood!!!!!

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I am human and I need to be love...
In a room with a window in the corner,I found truth

Lyracial,poetic genius. The only dark/depressing etc,etc,etc thing about him was the poor bastards epilespy.

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Red held deep inside of me.

fitz wrote:

Genius , Poet , and Twat

I'll humbly admit, Ian is as follows:

75% genius.
24% poet.
1% twat.

'Nuff said. Gotta love the man.

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~ 'Sunshine'